As of 2019, the New IFB listed 32 affiliated co I found that 10 of those apply to me and Im not even IFB. Also, please scroll up for additional information regarding your objections which Ive responded to ad nauseam. Baptists as a whole, are pretty terrible. From a biblical standpoint, Jesus is the ONLY mediator between God and Man and only Jesus can intercede us. God cant forgive you if Jesus didnt save you. The end of November we were going to break up because of physical abuse so instead sought counseling for our pastor and his wife. The school was run by Lester Roloff, an independent fundamental Baptist preacher who broke from the Southern Baptist Convention in 1954 and founded a series If you feel compelled to go door to door witnessing (or were compelled to visit a nursing home as a teen), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 28. No, Baptist churches are not sinless because they are filled with forgiven sinners. This church is affiliated with the Minnesota Baptist Conference and the Baptist General Conference, and may likewise cooperate with interdenominational fellowships on a voluntary independent basis. Ive used tattoos but not permanent ones. [5], New IFB pastors have been the subjects of controversy on numerous occasions. 12 But those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted. The list is quite helpful just in case one is wondering if theyre living through the motions or not though, but some things are definitely unbiblical to do whether youre IFB or not. OK That list just brought back memories that I can thankfully laugh at now. Yes, we have strife and faults and hypocrites. I could come to him with anything that was bothering or troubling me and he NEVER judged me or held me in contempt by making me feel like I was less than or not good enough. I am unsure if she was already a member before her husband passed or not. If you think that the title Pastor is the synonym for the man of God this is not the case in the church I go to. If this method were a stock, who would invest in it with such a low return. WebWOL's Directory of Independent Baptist Churches; Independent Baptist Churches. I was taught that. The Trinity: Southern Baptists believe in only one God who reveals himself as God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. All fellowship should be grounded in doctrine. Most Christians believe everything in the Bible. Baptists do not believe that baptism brings salvation, but rather it is the answer of a good conscience toward God. 21 And when you swear by the Temple, you are swearing by it and by God, who lives in it. We can joke around about a differing denomination that we dont agree with, but how we react to a situation that wasnt intended, also matters greatly. 11 The greatest among you must be a servant. I can count on one hand the number of IFBs whove asked for a discussion instead of attacking me. Gods will was for me to forgive. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things. If you refuse to eat at a restaurant because they serve alcoholic beverages, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 27. Ephesians 2:8-9 (Genesis 2:24; Romans 7:2; 1 Corinthians 7:10; Ephesians 5:22-23), We believe that God expressly forbids intimate sexual activity be engaged in outside of a marriage between one man and one woman. 30. The pastors name is Kevin Draganac. If you think that tithing of ten percent of your income is the minimum I dont have any position on this even though I do believe in tithes and offerings. We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ, the eternal Son of God, became man, without ceasing to be God, having been conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary, in order that He might reveal God and redeem sinful men (John 1:1-2, 14; Luke 1:35; Isaiah 9:6; 7:14; Philippians 2:5-8; Galatians 4:4-5). I love this!! We did 2 weeks of counseling and got married at the end of our last session. God forgave me because Jesus Christ saved me. I do believe the requirements of a bishop and deacon is the husband of one wife.1 Timothy 3:2,12 we dont look down on divorced people. I personally fall under Southern Missionary Baptist, and literally had questions in regards to my recent visits at an IFB church. 42. I dont think its as bad as all this, but thats my 2 cents and maybe Im still on the inside.. I had a wedding dress from when my boyfriend proposed on December 5, 2010. We forgive people, but only God can forgive sins. I loved him, but I hated the way he treated me. Romans 5:8 Told to leave them to the hog mire until they return to the father.. Just please be sure that your judging is fair. This is an assumption.. Does the lord convict me when I miss? I had a free apartment, food stamps, government phone, and a $60.. utility check every month. Jesus will save you if you believe in your heart that he was raised from the dead and admit out loud that Jesus is your lord. Im happy to defend my position, but I dont tolerate assumptions, attacks, accusations, judgments, bullying or anything of the like. We are happily married today blessed with 2 more children. Deacons help the pastor care for the flock so he can give priority to prayer and the ministry of the Word. If you think that singing anything other than hymns in church is too liberal, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 15. We believe that the ecumenical movement is a demonic attempt to unite all Christian denominations around experience to the disregard of biblical doctrine. 24. 3 1/2 years ago we were addicted to marijuana, cigarettes, alcohol, and pills. Yes, see my answer to your first question. 2Co 5:15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again. Here are my concerns about the beliefs since I am not Independent Baptist, Southern Baptist, or part of any Baptist affiliation: (Genesis 2:24; Leviticus 18:1-30; Romans 1:20-32; I Corinthians 5:1; 6:9; I Thessalonians 4:l-8; Hebrews 13:4), We believe that human life begins at conception and that the unborn child is a living human being. I know you scoff at my pity but there it is. Attending an IFB church is the only way to hear the true gospel and get saved There are so many churches that claim the be the one, true, church, especially the Catholics, Greek Orthodox, Anglicans, some Lutherans, Jehovahs Witnesses, Mormons, etc. If you believe that stateaccreditationfor a college is bad because it means that the government dictates what that college can/does teach,you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 30. Clapping after special is music is wrong because it gives praise to performers rather than to God That statement is wrong. I dont agree with the term, sowing discord with the brethren because I agree everything what the Bible teaches. The verses you quoted are taken out of context and dont mean what you imply them to mean. But I do know some churches practice free will offerings instead of tithing. Be careful that a fanatical or unbiblical few do not cause you to condemn us all as a group. It took exposure to more mature Christians (who were not not IFB!) Wow, nice list. Hmm, I cant think of a better word to describe the workings of the IFB! Our accountability comes through a board of directors comprised of 24 independent fundamental Baptist pastors who, in turn, were elected to serve as directors by independent fundamental Baptist pastors. ), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 41. 17. 1. (Mat 22:37-40) Can you honestly say that this is of God. I can not forgive sins! Do you realize this was written as humorous piece ? 7 You hypocrites! THESE SERMON OUTLINES By Michael D. ONeal, Founder and Pastor Since 1986 Of. Mind your own business. To train up a child does not mean to beat him with a rod, although there BE TIMES that a spanking becomes necessary, but NEVER out of anger. If the people in your church are truly humble, forgive easily, and believe that everyone is worthy of grace, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. Im truly sorry for those who were mistreated and sorry if bitterness is hurting you now. If your youth pastor eats a goldfish or gives away a baseball cap for every visitor a child brings, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. Why do people think that I dont have time to pray for loved ones simply because I have this site up? In the past 25 years, Ive seen many children leave but very few come back. Even I believe that if you are living in sin you are getting to the point where you are eventually will lose your salvation. They all work together. Most people find it hard to swallow that anyone really thinks that way at all. If I have misunderstood I apologize. We believe that the Scriptures are inerrant, infallible, and God-breathed. I have attended an IB Church my entire life (34 years). We believe in the autonomy of the local church free of any external authority or control. This is the same pastor who said, you can come and let us tell you how you can know how you can know for sure how you can make Heaven your home. King James is the inspired word of God While I do like the old King James Bible but King James Only is wrong because its misleading and its legalism. Jesus said I came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.. Judah has always been with God. Maybe one day I can reach your level of acceptance and spirituality. G.F.F. My birth mother is a Catholic she didnt raise me. All churches are full of sinful people, including the pastor. Christ is the o nly head of the church (Acts 13:1-4, 15:19-31, 20:28; Romans 16:1, 4; I Corinthians 3:9,16; 5:4-7,13; I Peter 5:1-4). It is the Divine Revelation of God to man and is the complete and infallible guide to faith and life. The pastor explained forgiveness and that Jesus has already forgiven his sin on the cross and if I choose to not forgive than I am believing in my heart Jesus didnt die for his sin. Can God heal if it be his will yes he can. I didnt really say you can get drunk on grape juice but if I did, I might be a little confused. 11. We believe that the Holy Spirit is the Person who reproves the world of sin, of righteousness, and of judgment; and that He is the Supernatural Agent in regeneration, indwelling all believers and sealing them unto the day of redemption (John 16:8-11; II Corinthians 3:6; Romans 8:9; Ephesians 1:13-14). 46. Why wouldnt I stand up for something I believe in? This is just another sidetrack from the gospel of of Christ.We are to love one another and build up the church. A Baptist church may choose to associate with other churches of like faith If the devil is going to attack, he will attack the family and the church first. From my perspective turning people away from the IFB is turning them towards God. sad stuff particularly the responses from obviously brainwashed bible folks. 19. I can forgive people for offenses committed against me. Wherever there are people, there is sin. 10 And dont let anyone call you Teacher, for you have only one teacher, the Messiah. I prefer Kjv! The reality is the ONLY TRUE CHURCH is the church that PRACTICES BIBLICAL TEACHINGS and NOT THAT OF MAN-MADE TEACHINGS because THEY ARE AGAINST THE BIBLE because I do ask the question that why there are so many churches. We believe that man was created in the image and likeness of God, but that in Adam's sin the race fell, inherited a sinful nature, and became alienated from God; and therefore man is totally depraved, and, of himself, utterly unable to remedy his lost conditin (Genesis 1: 26- 27; Romans 3: 2 2-23; Ephesians 2 : 1-3, 12). Come and join. Ive addressed the scriptures about tithing in my article and explain it using proper exegesis and hermeneutics. No member shall And as the word independent implies, we are not all alike. Would you go back and pet a dog after it bit you? In thinking back, I see that the church was filled with tiny idols like that. The New IFB does not consider itself to be a denomination. I have no opinion on this Copyright 2002-2023 Got Questions Ministries. If you should cut your vacation short you should never miss church this has happened only once in my life when I went I was on my senior class trip. Independent Baptists (a.k.a. I believe tithing is good and God blesses those who tithe. Romans 5:8 is about salvation. Is to help you find a bible believing church, an Independent Fundamental Baptist Church, that seeks to serve and honor the Lord Jesus Christ. (Genesis 2:24; Genesis 19:5, 13; Genesis 26:8-9; Leviticus 18:1-30; Romans 1:26-29; 1 Corinthians 5:1, 6:9; 1 Thessalonians 4:1-8; Hebrews 13:4). The Bible gives qualifications for each office. We believe that the only marriage recognized by Scripture is the joining of one man and one woman. If you think that homosexuality is an unforgivable sin, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 55. I have scriptures on my walls that are from other versions. God speaks to individuals through His Word and His Spirit. Using guitars in church is too liberal That was not the case at the church I grew up in when the last pastor I had when he came to Mountain Church of Christ when he first arrived (which is instrumental though membership is small). The Duggar family, so much in the news lately, are Independent Fundamental Baptists (IFB), a loosely affiliated, singularly cultish denomination of Mental health issues are just another health issue people have. Do you know what Jesus told the Pharisees? Again its too legalistic. We sought counseling to see if there was any hope. Those are my concerns about the 25 topics about the Independent Fundamental Baptist beliefs. They are counting on your service and tithe. We had been boyfriend and girlfriend for 5 years and a baby that was 10 months old. 24 Blind guides! WebActs 15:36,41; 16:5; I Corinthians 16:1; Galatians 1:1-3; Revelation 1:4, 10, 11. No, but I wanted to send the rest of my life with him. But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Im mocking IFB beliefs many of which arent scriptural. They simply do not know and probably lack the ability to do the research, but Cyril I. Scofield was a Confederate soldier who left his wife and two children and later remarried another woman. 45. People that oppose things is due to beliefs, so I believe if you oppose the IFB church its because you dont believe what their teaching not because there bitter. And, aside from the ones you mentioned that are truly sinful (i.e, #17, #53), and the ones that are just inaccurate (i.e, #13, #16, #35), some of these are interesting picks to end up on the list. or any combination of the above isnt really saved because of that/those behavior(s), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 52. Thank God for grace! Lastly, I cant really respond to the think that theres something spiritual about tolerating abuse because I have no idea where thats coming from in my initial post. Believe it or not I can find time to pray while at the same time not sending my loved ones to an abusive church. Abortion constitutes the unjustified, inexcusable taking of unborn human life. Freedom of choice demands personal responsibility. I dont know what Daves intentions were. Hypocrites! You dont just GO WITH THE FLOW. Scripture is Good! Even if you cant tithe now you can still serve in some way and later when you are able to improve your financial situation they will get your tithe. Basically he was just marketing for his college. Yes, I have countless emails and comments from people who were ready to give up on their faith until they read this site and realized that the IFB was in error not them. But what He hates about us is the pride and arrogance in us. If you pray using KJV language (thee, though, ye, etc. XII. You are correct! Abortion is murder. "[3], The New IFB was formed by Anderson and other Baptist pastors in 2017 in an attempt to revive what they perceived older independent Baptist churches once represented. Generally its the Pastor, or Preaching Elder or Minister, that has to attend multiple services because he has to preach the sermon. I truly dont understand this one, ha! N/A Whether we worship with hymns or hands int he air praise and worship songs, we are all suppose to be on the same side. Lots of people at the church stoped what they were doing to attend. Wow! If your denomination knocked on their door im sure they wouldnt have gotten saved and the helped they needed. I have 3 children I sometimes spank I sometimes lecture. Our pastor dont take any credit he passes praise the church gives to him towards God. THE PARABLE IS NOT A GUIDE NOR DID JESUS SAY THAT ITS A MAP ON HOW TO DEAL with a wayward child!! Im told its because when u abandon the real truth, theres hardly any hope. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. 6 And they love to sit at the head table at banquets and in the seats of honor in the synagogues. 12. The members were so sweet to us. (II Corinthians 12:12; I Corinthians 13:8; Hebrews 2:3-4; Mark 16:17-20; I Corinthians 1:22, 14:21-22). Fannin was later ejected as the lead preacher of SBC-Jax. If you attend a church each Sunday with a team of men that keeps track of attendence each Sunday In our congregation, we do not do that. I grew up in a IFB school and then university, so I can totally relate. Or preferring the KJV? 31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. God is the only one who can forgive mans sins. Every proposition presented for action of the church must be introduced by motion of one member and seconded by another. First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friends eye. They are usually so full of themselves, because they went straight from salvation to knowledge, and Peter says to add to your faith virtue, and THEN go to knowledge, 2 Peter 1:5. If you believe that women are inferior to men and are to be submissive to their husbands, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. There are independent Reformed/Calvinist Baptists, and independent Arminian 22 of the congregations are in 16 U.S. states, one in British Columbia, three are in the Philippines, two are in the Australian states of New South Wales and Queensland, and one congregation is located in the South African town of Middelburg. That being said, your list is probably only funny to those of us who have lived it. You can be saved and live however, but there will be consequences the saddest consequence of this behavior is your relationship with God will be Hindered greatly or little. That makes no sense. You ALWAYS have your KJV Bible with you at church, and turn to numerous verses each sermon. Yes, we have a tract rack. Pastor dont preach on smoking unless he preaches on a list of things that destroy the body. I forgot to mention my concerns on some of the other beliefs of the Independent Fundamental Baptist Church: Of course these cultural attachments border on the cultic, no doubt are legalistic, and hopefully will disappear eventually as the old guard depart their bondage in this life for Glory! Everyone has sent in their life. Some of these are very much right on the money. If you think that the title Pastor is a synonym for the Man of God or the voice of God, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. It didnt raise red flags for me. 25. 31. How come many Americans havent heard of the Independent Fundamental Baptist church movement? Anyway, Im sorry that you had a bad experience at an IFB church, but that doesnt excuse you for mocking Biblical beliefs. They bought your loyalty. Then, I can display my tolerance by making of list of things that I disagree with someone else about and make fun of them. This is the first and great commandment. Is that what the great commission tells us to do: Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and send lost loved ones to an IFB church so that they might be saved (DHV Don Holt Version). That being said, I just want to warn the author about injecting too much of his own agenda into these posts. We believe that eternal life is the present possession of every believer (John 6:37-40, 10:27-30; Romans 8:1, 38-39; I Corinthians 1:4-8; I Peter 1:4-5; Jude 1, 2). Matthew 6:14-15 is a warning not a command. If you believe that someone who smokes, drinks, parties, dances, listens to secular music, listens to Christian contemporary music, etc. They try there best to live for Christ and to give God the glory for everything. Only God decides who goes to heaven and who doesnt. (Ephesians 2:8-10; John 1:12; I Peter 1:18-19). Im so thankful for Gods grace on your life and the lives of your family. If you think that other than suits and ties for men is too casual for Sundays While I dont believe that you must dress up for church with suits and ties, however, I do believe we should honor God in His house by dressing up. Jesus forgives and loves and he also needs to be honored is all respects.